Apocalypse Island

Natural rock outcroppings on Robinson Crusoe Island are not Mayan "monuments."

Apocalypse Island - La Isla Apocalíptica

 This is a site for people who are angry over wasting two hours watching the History Channel's scam show called "Apocalypse Island" and want to stop Jim Turner from perpetrating a continuation of this hoax.   Of course, it is also intended to warn other people not to watch any reruns or continuations of this farce.  If you would like to join our group and receive updates and messages, go to our Apocalypse Island Yahoo Group at   
http://tv.groups.yahoo.com/group/apocalypseisland/?yguid=140285945  

Do see our many links, both to sites about the program and to information about Robinson Crusoe Island, at our LINKS page.

See the comments and opinions of our members at our FORUMS page.

See the PHOTO GALLERY for maps and photos.  

An excellent review with an analysis of the astronomical claims is

Apocalypse Island: an History Channel hoax

  http://www.lindipendente.eu/wp/en/2011/09/05/apocalypse-island-an-history-channel-hoax/

 Apocalypse Island (apocalypseisland@yahoo.com

Below is the article from Wikipedia as of November 18, 2010.  

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Apocalypse Island is the name of a television show on the History Channel, part of the "Armageddon" series Canadian "explorer" Jim Turner goes to Robinson Crusoe Island to show the viewers two rock formations he claims are Mayan statues. See the location of the rock formations at "2012 Island alignments and the formations themselves at "Monuments". He claims to see a Mayan Sun God in the upright formation and a crouching jaguar in the long formation (viewed from the North, he sees a snail from the South). Despite Jim Turner's conjecture, there is no evidence of human presence before the Spanish discovery 
(http://palaeoworks.anu.edu.au/pubs/Andersonetal02.pdf)

(http://apocalypseisland.webs.com/haberle.htm) and this perception of monuments could be the result of the phenomenon of pareidolia. 

An inordinately long time is spent on an unnecessary voyage in a small boat from Valparaiso, Chile, to the island and then landing by rubber raft on a deserted beach. The impression is given that the island is uninhabited and inaccessible when there is a town (San Juan Bautista, Chile) and an airport on it. The map of routes shows one trail going to the immediate vicinity of the rock formations at number 6.

The program has become a cult classic for how poorly or deceptively made a documentary can be. (Community at History Channel) (Internet Movie DataBase) (Apocalypse Island)  There are many forums where people have vented their frustration over wasting two whole hours watching this program. (The Truth about Apocalypse Island) (Apocalypse Island what kind of bullshit was this)  Since Turner's website asks for donations of $25 to $500 to support his "research", scam warnings are appearing to try to stop people giving money to Turner. (IMDB Jim Turner Board)(Scam Alert Apocalypse Island Project)(Jim Turner, explorer, his Apocalypse Island scam)(Ripoff Report:Jim Turner)

 

Robert Davi does the narration, which gives the impression there is significance to the show. Jeff Salz, who accompanied Jim Turner, has made an attempt to defend the show as a travelogue with beautiful photography, but he does not confirm the claim of Mayan origin of the rock formations. In his response of January 14, he states "all I can say is that at no point and at no place on/near the “monument” was I able to detect any historical presence of humans." (Jeff Salz)

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Below is a comment from Simon Haberle sent as an email on September 6, 2010. Simon Haberle is an author of the archeological study cited above, "An Archeological Exploration of Robinson Crusoe Island, Juan Fernandez Archipeligo, Chile,"

 

The archaeological evidence is very clear that there were no Mayan peoples inhabiting the island at any time in prehistory. The "stone artifacts" he shows also show no evidence for human action in their formation and could be formed through natural processes. No stone axes were ever found in our excavations and surveys. I have seen the geological formations mentioned in the website and, along with any geologist you might ask, know that they are simply remnants of harder basalt that forms the ridges throughout the island. Similar protruding ridgelines are found throughout the island. There is no evidence for human hand in forming any of these features. I wish the History Channel would focus on the excellent and exciting scientific work that has been done on these islands (from biology to geology and archaeology). Unfortunately this story does not come under that category.

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Here are two other articles by Simon Haberle:

An Environmental History of the Juan Fernandez Archipeligo

A poster presentation by Simon Haberle.

palaeoworks.anu.edu.au/JFposter.pdf 

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JUAN FERNANDEZ ISLANDS by Simon Haberle

Article on biology and history of the islands.

palaeoworks.anu.edu.au/pubs/Haberle09.pdf 

 

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 SODAHEAD question on "Apocalypse Island"

The History Channel has been showing a two hour program called "Apocalypse Island" in which Jim Turner claims to have found a huge Mayan "monument" on Robinson Crusoe Island, Chile. Do you believe the Mayans really did this?

This would require the Mayans to travel 3500 miles in canoes and to find an unknown island 400 miles offshore. Jeff Salz, who accompanied Jim Turner on this trip, says he did not see any evidence that the rock formations were shaped by humans and he saw no evidence of ancient human presence in the area. Simon Haberle and other archeologists who have studied the islands say there is no sign of human presence before the Spanish arrived. See http://apocalypseisland.webs.com/ for more information. Jim Turner is asking people to contribute up to $500 to fund his "research", it appears this is simply a fraudulent scam. Why has the History Channel devoted two hours to promoting his nonsense?

Results of poll as of October 4, 2010: 

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Top Answer: (by Mike Nassau, September 28, 2010)

Jim Turner is an unscrupulous purveyor of disinformation. He claims that he was not responsible for the History Channel taking up over an hour and a half on his journey to the island out of this two hour program or for trying to hide its identity (Robinson Crusoe Island, Chile) or for asserting that it is uninhabited and inaccessible (it has a town, regular ferry service from Valparaiso, Chile, and an airport with charter flights from Santiago, Chile). Even if this is true, he is still guilty of claiming the obviously natural basaltic rock outcroppings are Mayan "monuments." He never mentions that there is no sign of pre-Spanish human presence on the island (see archeologist Simon Haberle's comment), no sign of human shaping of the rock formations (see the comment of Jeff Salz, who accompanied him). He never mentions that the island is 3500 miles from the nearest Mayan area, the coast of Guatemala (that is the distance from London to New York) and over 400 miles from the nearest point on the mainland of Chile. The idea that the Mayans could have known of the island's existence is preposterous, that they could have reached it in their canoes is even more ridiculous. Many people commenting on the program have called it a hoax or a scam which wasted two whole hours. Since Turner is appealing for people to donate money (up to $500) to continue his "research" on these "monuments," he is committing fraud. I sincerely hope no one falls for his hype. See the Wikipedia article on "Apocalypse Island" for more information. 

Do go to Sodahead to read the comments and to take part in the poll.

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Question and answer from Yahoo Answers:

Where is Apocalypse Island and did the Mayans really build monuments there? 

 http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20100912094653AAWwRkU 


Where is Apocalypse Island and did the Mayans really build monuments there?

The History Channel has a program called Apocalypse Island about Mayan monuments on an unknown, uninhabited, inaccessible island in the middle of the Pacific. But the monuments just look like rocks. Was this for real? 

 

No, it is not for real. Jim Turner, the "explorer", identifies the island as Robinson Crusoe Island, Chile. It is a well known tourist destination as the inspiration for the novel "Robinson Crusoe". It has a town, San Juan Bautista, with 550 people, and another 100 live scattered over the island. There is an airport and a harbor with regular ferry service from Valparaiso, Chile, 400 miles away. The rocks are just natural basalt outcroppings according to an archeologist who worked on the island and visited the site. The Island is 3500 miles from the nearest Mayan area in Guatemala, an impossible distance for Mayan canoes. Compare with 4000 miles for the voyage of Columbus. Even Jeff Salz, Turner's companion on the excursion, says there was no sign of human work on the rocks or of ancient human presence in the area.

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